Mo’Kelly can’t run down the list of all the times she’s been arrested and slapped with probation (not from memory at least, but there’s always wikipedia…see below). But in this video you will see that the judge has set aside probation and sentenced her to three consecutive 30-day sentences (not concurrent) for a total of 90 days. It’s truly hard for Mo’Kelly to be sympathetic to her tears when it’s safe to say with the bevy of arrests she’s had…the “average” individual would have been put in jail long ago.
To connect the dots to El DeBarge and substance abuse…the amount of ridicule and negative publicity Lohan will continue to endure will likely be necessary for her to turn her life around. Because heretofore, the PROBATION wasn’t enough to do it. It doesn’t matter whether one is a fan of Lohan or her movies. It doesn’t matter if someone thinks she’s more talented than all of those who criticize her put together. It only matters that she should be held accountable for her conduct, especially the illegal portion.
Never lose sight of that.
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The backstory:
During filming in 2006, Lohan was hospitalized, her representative saying “she was overheated and dehydrated”. At the time Lohan was going through a breakup with restaurant owner Harry Morton. This contributed to her problems on the set according to Allure. In a letter that was made public, studio executive James G. Robinson called Lohan “irresponsible and unprofessional”. He mentioned “various late arrivals and absences from the set” and that “we are well aware that your ongoing all night heavy partying is the real reason for your so-called ‘exhaustion’.”
In 2006, Lohan attended Alcoholics Anonymous meetings. In early January 2007, production on the film I Know Who Killed Me was put on hold when Lohan underwent appendix surgery. Later in the month, Lohan admitted herself to the Wonderland Center rehabilitation facility. Lohan checked out on February 16, 2007 after completing a 30-day stay. Shortly thereafter, Lohan withdrew from a film adaptation of Oscar Wilde‘s A Woman of No Importance, her publicist stating that Lohan needed to “focus on getting better”. Lohan was replaced in The Edge of Love in April 2007, shortly before filming was to begin, with the director citing “insurance reasons” and Lohan later explaining that she “was going through a really bad time then.” During the stay she continued shooting the film, returning to the facility at night.
Lohan was then cast in the film adaptation of the novel Poor Things. On May 26, four days before production was set to start, she was arrested for DUI and subsequently re-entered rehab. The film’s producers initially voiced support and production was put on hold.
Lohan was involved in a traffic accident on May 26, 2007 when she lost control of her car and ran the vehicle up a curb. Beverly Hills police also found what they preliminarily identified as a “usable” amount of cocaine in her car. After receiving treatment for minor injuries, Lohan was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of driving under the influence of alcohol. She subsequently entered the Promises Treatment Center rehabilitation facility, where she stayed for 45 days. Upon her release to outpatient care, Lohan was voluntarily fitted with a SCRAM bracelet to monitor her sobriety.
On July 24, three weeks before filming was scheduled to resume, Lohan was arrested for a second DUI and again returned to rehabilitation.
[Mo’Kelly: STILL NO FREAKIN’ JAIL TIME!!!]
On July 24, less than two weeks after leaving Promises, Lohan refused a field sobriety test in Santa Monica and was taken to a police station where her blood alcohol level was found to be above the legal limit. While conducting a search, the police found a small amount of cocaine in her pocket.
[Mo’Kelly: STILL NO FREAKIN’ JAIL TIME!!!]
In August 2007, Lohan entered Cirque Lodge Treatment Center in Sundance, Utah for a third stint at rehabilitation, staying until discharge on October 5, 2007.[113] In 2007 Lohan first dated British TV personality Calum Best and then snowboarder Riley Giles, who she met during her third stay in rehab.Lohan was booked on a felony charge of possession of cocaine and misdemeanor charges of driving under the influence and driving with a suspended license.
[Mo’Kelly: STILL NO FREAKIN’ JAIL TIME!!!]
In the wake of her second DUI arrest, Lohan withdrew from a scheduled appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno in which she had been due to promote I Know Who Killed Me, a low-budget thriller-mystery in which she stars as a stripper with a dual personality. The film premiered to what Entertainment Weekly called “an abysmal $3.5Â million”. It earned Lohan a dual Razzie nomination for Worst Actress, with Lohan coming first and second, tying with herself.[118]
On August 23, 2007, Lohan pleaded guilty to cocaine use and driving under the influence and was sentenced to one day imprisonment and 10 days community service.
[Mo’Kelly: ONE FREAKIN’ DAY OF JAIL TIME?!]
She was also ordered to pay fines and complete an alcohol education program, and was given three years probation.
[Mo’Kelly: ONE FREAKIN’ DAY OF JAIL TIME?!]
Lohan released a statement in which she said “it is clear to me that my life has become completely unmanageable because I am addicted to alcohol and drugs”. On November 15, 2007, Lohan served 84 minutes in jail.
[Mo’Kelly: 84 FREAKIN’ MINUTES IN JAIL?! 84 MINUTES?!]
A sheriff spokesman cited overcrowding and the nonviolent nature of the crime as reasons for the reduced sentence.The probation was extended by an additional year in October 2009, following several instances in which Lohan failed to attend the court-ordered substance abuse treatment classes.
46 responses to “Lindsay Lohan Sentenced to Jail (VIDEO) About Damn Time”
So…they finally threw the "pamphlet" at Lindsay Lohan (damn sure wasn't the book!!!). Sentenced to three 30 days in jail (90) , to be followed by 90 days in rehab. Check out the video as she breaks down and starts crying on her attorneys shoulder. Ha…if it had been me or you, we would have been in jail after the first time. She was such a promising young actress and she just took it for granted. This mess has been going on for some years, and she lost all my sympathy when she was caught with the cocaine and tried to blame it on the black guy. Hope she learns something and I hope "Big Bertha" is her cellmate,lol.
Sort of below the belt to wish a bad time in jail on her.
I wouldn't have expected that out of you, southernVal.
She will probably hope that big bertha was her cell mate too!-sorry! out of line! Anyways, how sweet it is to be rich and white in America!
I would say that being rich and white isn't buying her any favor now.
As far as we know, her "offense" this time was that the rehab center was lax in letting her take classes sporadically instead of on the strict schedule imposed by the judge.
I wouldn't be surprised if the lawyer is putting together a motion for reconsideration right now.
Maybe she "doesn't get it" or maybe she's just trying to balance life, career, rehab and the whims of a self-important judge.
Celebrity and the incumbent awesome responsibilities came very young to this woman, and her family is a pathetic, disgraceful, meddlesome mess.
None of this can be easy for her, and while we needn't feel sorry for a celebrity who runs afoul of the law, that doesn't mean we don't recognize the difficulties they face.
The woman was arrested multiple times for possession of drugs and multiple DUIs and spent all of 84 minutes in jail. I don't have any sympathy for her. And would NOT have spent any more time if she had just adhered to her probation stipulations. So I REALLY don't have any sympathy given that she's only going to jail because she didn't handle her court business, not because justice was served. She very easily could have stayed out of jail altogether. Race and wealth were definitely factors. It's not reasonable or logical to think that someone of lesser means and different color stays out of jail under the same circumstances.
I would say that celebrity is likely a factor and that celebrity is a relatively pleasant skin for a person of color to wear. In other words, a popular black actor would also get some slack from the system.
The point you missed, Mo, is that her jailing is not related to those offenses, it is related to missed treatment meetings. In other words, she's going to jail for "violating terms", not for any sort of repeat offense.
And the violation of terms does not seem, on its face, to be some sort of flagrant rejection of the court's authority; rather is seems that the program allowed her to flex the schedule to meet her career demands, and Lohan (foolishly) seems not to have sought advice of counsel before deciding that she was answerable for her attendance to the program and not to the judge.
This does smack of judicial grandstanding. The woman is not drinking, not drugging and is taking her classes. She's also trying to keep her career from dying in the meantime.
"I would say that celebrity is likely a factor and that celebrity is a relatively pleasant skin for a person of color to wear. In other words, a popular black actor would also get some slack from the system."
Slack?
Show me ONE Black actor who's been ARRESTED multiple times for drug possession and DUIs and never spent more than 84 minutes in jail.
Show me ONE.
Morris,
Again I say you are missing the point I am making.
I don't think I need to make it again; just read the whole thing.
While it may be an interesting class project to "find the happy black person" amid the many who are treated roughly by the system, my point was and is true in that regard: black celebrities get treated better than black folks in general.
The other point was that this judge seems to have a need for publicity. First she puts out a warrant for the arrest of one of the most recognizable faces on the planet, all while everybody knew exactly where she was and when she would be back. But "continued til next Tuesday" doesn't get the same size font as "BENCH WARRANT", now does it?
Fast forward to yesterday, when a woman whose last crime was in 2007, with a total record of two DUI in a four month period and one cocaine possession charge, stood before the judge to explain why she had missed a few alcohol awareness classes.
The explanation was simple: She's an entertainer, not a nine-to-fiver. She was trying to make them up as she went along. The judge decided that she was "insincere".
OK. Judge, mind-reader, whatever. She's an entertainer. Give her rules that don't bring her career to a complete halt.
Oh, wait. What's this? 90 days jail, 90 more treatment? In other words, "F your career, young lady, you answer to ME, understand? To ME."
I'd appeal the 90 days treatment, actually. The judge said she would not evaluate the anklet reading, so she can't then use it to apparently conclude that Lohan is not staying sober.
So what we have is a woman who had a bad 2007 and has been on probation EVER SINCE, extended for an additional year because she pissed off the judge about that damn schedule, and now this.
OK. All mighty, all powerful ruler, whatever.
What we don't have here is a Britneyesque meltdown. We have zero evidence that Lohan is still the out of control person she was in 2007. By all accounts she is simply trying to keep her career alive.
They make more and more pretty young girls like every single day, and nobody knows that better than Lohan.
Yes, Black celebrities get treated "better" than Black rank and file people. Which goes back to the beginning, race and wealth matter in this equation, but Black celebrities are not treated as well as White celebrities of similar means and circumstances.
Morris, we of course agree there.
I think I have a point too that this judge is going overboard.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1643116/20100707…
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Hours after Lindsay Lohan was sentenced to 90 days in jail to be followed by 90 days in rehab for violating probation, her estranged father, Michael Lohan, sat down with Larry King to discuss his daughter's punishment.
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HOURS.
Then there's this from last month: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/18/dina-loh…
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Dina Lohan was denied a free Carvel ice cream cake in Long Island on Wednesday, and she called the cops to report the store.
Dina, Lindsay's mom, ordered a cake for son Cody's 14th birthday, and tried to get it for free with Lindsay's Carvel "Black" Card, a promotional gift that entitles Lindsay to free ice cream for 75 years.
Lindsay was not present, the store asked for ID, and Dina was denied the freebie. The store employee then took the card.
Dina's response? To call the police on Carvel.
Dina then told Radar:
"Finally he gave up and gave me my card back. But he told me, 'You can have the card, but you can't have the cake!'
"It just shows how we [Lohans] get treated so much worse than regular people."
Carvel then released a statement holding their ground.
"Unfortunately, the Lohan family has been abusing the card. While the card was issued in Lindsay's name only, her extended family has repeatedly used the card without her present. At first, we graciously honored their requests while explaining that the Black Card was not a carte blanche for unlimited Carvel Ice Cream for the extended Lohan family and friends. After more than six months of numerous and large orders for ice cream, we finally had to cut off the card and take it back.
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You can't make this stuff up.
But it does tell you a lot about what this young woman has been dealing with for a long, long time.
By the way, Morris, your editorial insertions in the main post give the appearance that Lohan committed more acts than she did.
You insert
[Mo'Kelly: STILL NO FREAKIN' JAIL TIME!!!]
five times, regarding two incidents. May 26 car crash and July 24 pull-over DUI.
I'd like to make the point that, despite that very poorly worded article you referenced, we are talking about two incidents involving the law, resulting in two DUIs and one cocaine possession.
Not exactly a hard-core rap sheet, and clearly a case of the biggest victim being the individual.
And by all accounts, clean and sober since then.
Her father is concerned she's hooked on pills. Fair enough. Now if the family would take ten steps back and let her breathe, maybe she can get rid of that burden and be allowed to start living her life.
Walt,
All that rhetoric is for the lawyer to use on behalf of her client. I don't see any of that as a mitigating factor. She's has had multiple arrests in which to get her life in order. Most criminals have horrible backstories. But crime is crime.
Well Morris, it's two arrests in a 3 month period three years ago.
And one grandstanding judge.
And two crazy parents.
And a career she is desperate to save.
It's more sad than any other thing.
two arrests in a 3-month period with NO JAIL TIME. THAT is the key. The supposed craziness of her parents and especially her career are not mitigating factors. She should pay for her crimes.
There are plenty of people who lost their jobs and then went in and shot up the post office or a McDonalds. The fact that somebody has a sob story isn't a reasonable excuse.
She was busted for COCAINE.
She was busted for two DUIs and possession of cocaine.
Again: Not exactly hard core.
Not even Lohan excuses that period. She was out of control. A danger to herself and others.
But not a hard core criminal. Not necessarily deserving of jail. And of course she was sentenced in 2007 to three years of probation which required her to stop drinking and of course commit no crimes, including using drugs.
She met those terms. She suffered no binge, committed no other crime.
She merely ran afoul of attendance requirements at her sessions, again, in an attempt to keep her career from evaporating, something which will be much more difficult to do now.
You may be aware, Mo, that California has no place to put new prisoners, so non-violent first offenders rarely receive much jail time, since they'd only be released anyway under the court order to release non-violent offenders who serve a fraction of their time.
The probation came with a potential two year hitch in a state pen for any criminal violation of those terms.
She never committed such crime, never received any state time, never fell off the wagon that we know of, and is just trying to get on with her life and get beyond the consequences of her wilder days.
Perhaps when you take the time to read my comments in a thorough way, which you clearly have not done, you will begin to see where I'm coming from.
The truth is that you overstated the situation from the start, focused evidently more on the headline-grabbing judge than the actual issues.
You evidently thought there was much more to the story than there is.
Morris,
I'm striking out in my efforts to find a black celebrity who went to jail for offenses similar to Lohan's.
Do you have any examples?
Bobby Brown was sentenced to 8 days in jail for ONE DUI. And also sentenced to 90 days for failure to pay child support.
The late actor Harold Rollins (In the Heat of the Night) was sentenced to 6 months in jail for cocaine DUI http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-15456157.html
And Rollins ADMITTED guilt.
Rapper and actor DMX sentenced to 6 months in jail for violating probation. http://www.bvnewswire.com/2010/03/16/dmx-sentence…
You didn't look hard enough Walt. And I didn't overstate the story. She should've been in jail LONG AGO PERIOD. The fact that you don't "think" her offenses were hardcore is irrelevant. 2 DUIs get you jail in California no if ands or buts. Not even mentioning the cocaine portion. "hardcore" is not a sentencing determination.
She has MULTIPLE offenses…we're talking facts here…not opinions. The only reason she's in jail is because she violated the terms of her probation…meaning she very well likely would not have done any time at all. And the time she did get was still 3 months fewer than the examples I gave of Black celebrities.
Just the facts.
There is no evidence to support your contention that Lohan was either unfairly treated or that the judge was grandstanding.
Walt…I'm not wishing her harm,if she's put in general population, she's gonna need a Big Bertha to protect her privledged behind.I'm sure she can put money on Berthas book for that! I have no sympathy at all for her at all. She had ample opportunity to put her life together. If it were one on my black children, they would've throw their behinds in jail after the first offence. Yes, she's got issues, but she also has the money for therapy.
I am very sorry you are disappointed in me Walt, but I'm just saying…..
southernVal,
Try not to be confused by Morris' confusion.
He is under the deluded impression that Lohan has had continued run-ins with the law.
No, she hasn't.
As you can see above, it was two incidents, in 2007, for which she received three years probation which was extended one year.
Why? Same issue she faces now: failure to make all her meetings.
Why? She's not a 9-to-5er, she's a movie actress.
Why the onerous requirements? Why the arrest warrant? Why jail and rehab?
Why all this for some missed meetings while otherwise living legal, clean and sober?
You know my theory.
This is the latest in a series of posts by Morris which make basic mistakes which he refuses to correct.
In this case he clearly believed that Lohan was in constant trouble, which is not at all the case.
Why jail and forced inpatient rehab is needed here is utterly beyond me.
And in any case, Mo was completely incorrect in describing her troubles, and as we have seen recently, Mo's solution when he gets something wrong is to double down, attack the accuser and go into spin mode.
Lindsay Lohan has multiple arrests including DUIs (plural) and cocaine possession…no distortion there. Prior to her probation violation she was in jail for all of 84 minutes…no distortion there.
I gave you instances of Black celebrities will multiple arrests/DUI/cocaine possession, whose revocation of probation led to sentences LONGER than Lohan's…no distortion there.
Everything you've offered has to do with your perception of Lohan's CIRCUMSTANCES, not with the FACTS that she got off easier than those with comparable situations. I notice you had zero to say about DMX, Bobby Brown and Harold Rollins…
Nice of you to also gloss over the examples I gave you of the sentencing disparities, but say I don't read all of your comments.
Before Morris attacks me for saying that he was "completely incorrect", here is the first line of this post:
Mo’Kelly can’t run down the list of all the times she’s been arrested and slapped with probation (not from memory at least, but there’s always wikipedia…see below).
All the times were two. They both occurred in a two month span 3 years ago.
There is no way to spin the above misconception. Morris clearly (and somewhat lazily) believed that there was some sort of ongoing string of arrests ("all the times" would imply more than just the initial troubles, and would imply that it's a current issue).
If he would simply grasp the opportunity when presented (in this case, long about my third comment) to say something like "Geez, I didn't realize that this is all about two arrests in a two month span three years ago, and that she's been legal, clean and sober since then", we could have moved on to a discussion about whether or not the judge is grandstanding here.
Which, to me, is the better discussion, far better certainly than continuing to pretend that Lohan is the constant transgressor that Mo clearly thought she was.
No, she's not.
And Morris, I think the real lesson for you here is simple:
READ MY COMMENTS! ALL OF THE WORDS, NOT JUST A FEW!
It certainly seems to me that Morris stops reading my comments as soon as he finds a tasty morsel to rebut. If he had read them in their entirety, I'd like to believe he'd have seen by now that I had a point.
Why is there such a rush to hold up this little flower????? She did WRONG! The judge found her guilty of it. She was sentenced to her time-she didn't do much of it though, and she still would not BEHAVE! She gets breaks like you wouldn't believe and she still acted a plum IDIOT??? She has young girls thinking that her behavior is okay? She NEEDS to be in jail! General population is what it will take for her to get her life together and straighten up and fly right! Jail will give her time to reflect on what she will lose if she does not STOP-her very life and soul!
onemom,
You are clearly basing that opinion on Morris' deluded, distorted account of Lohan's behavior, not on the behavior itself.
And through all of this I wonder: Why?
I will not go down this road.
Just a brief peek into Bobby Brown's record:
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Singer Bobby Brown was photographed twice on November 7, 2002. After Atlanta cops charged him with possession of marijuana, speeding, and driving without a license or proof of insurance, they discovered an outstanding warrant in neighboring DeKalb County (where he was popped in April 1996 for DUI). The oft-arrested Mr. Whitney Houston posed first at the Atlanta City Jail in a khaki shirt, and after posting bond was transported to the DeKalb County Jail for a second, more casual b'ball jersey/t-shirt photo. He posed for a third mug (in a nifty striped sweater) on January 17, 2003 after pleading guilty to the 1996 DUI and being sentenced to eight days in jail.
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(a) Already a long string of issues and soon to get much longer. Having as much in common with Lohan as, well, nothing.
(b) Did not happen in Cali. Two different jurisdictions.
So Morris is out to prove that Cali kisses Lohan's ass for being white, female and beautiful.
OK, Morris, in order to prove that, all I need is a black person who DUI'd in Cali with no prior record and did time.
Rollins served three months, also in a different jurisdiction, and was also driving on a suspended license at the time. According to Jet, it was at least his fifth DUI arrest.
DMX? Morris, seriously, we're going to compare Lohan to DMX?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMX_(rapper)#Crimina…
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In June 2004, he was arrested at the John F. Kennedy International Airport on charges of cocaine possession, criminal impersonation, criminal possession of a weapon, criminal mischief, menacing, and driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol while claiming to be a federal agent and attempting to carjack a vehicle.[31] He was given a conditional discharge on December 8, 2004, but plead guilty on October 25, 2005, to violating parole.[32]
On November 18, 2005, DMX was sentenced to 70 days in jail for violating his parole; the lateness charge added a 10-day extension to the original 60-day sentence.[33] DMX was released from jail for good behavior early on December 30, 2005.[34]
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These people have what in common with Lohan?
This thread is distintegrating rapidly.
And all so Morris can avoid admitting how wrong he was about Lohan's record.
At least you have the honesty to leave the original post intact for all to see, Morris.
After that, it's all smoke and mirrors.
Morris,
Other than blatant dishonesty, your worst offense in this post is accidental: By being so wrong about Lohan, you end up trivializing a serious issue.
Nobody among this particular group would dream of denying what an important issue sentencing disparity is (not even bringing into the discussion the whole concept of "fair trial"), with people of color subject to much harsher punishment for most crimes than their white counterparts.
All true.
Unfortunately for you, you picked this particular case in which to make your point. There is no doubt that this was an honest mistake, but Sherry Golightly can tell you how it happened: You didn't do your research. The way you broke up that story makes it clear you believed that Lohan had a long, ugly history of criminal behavior.
Nope.
And now that you know, what do you do about it?
(a) Double down.
(b) Attack the accuser.
(c) Spin like there's no tomorrow.
All of which realistically threatens to sink this blog into a sea of irrelevancy.
What's one more distoted voice representing silly opinions based on nothing?
This blog used to be SO MUCH MORE.
I pray that all is not lost.
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Lindsay Lohan's lawyer Shawn Chapman Holley resigned Thursday, according to TMZ.
Earlier in the day, Holley defended the actress, 24, saying Lohan's 90-day jail sentence was too harsh.
"Ms. Lohan and I are extremely disappointed in the sentence handed down by Judge Revel," she told UsMagazine.com in a statement. "We believe that the penalty is far harsher than what others would have received under similar circumstances. The reality is that Ms. Lohan, like most defendants, had to balance work commitments with court requirements. To be punished so severely for doing so, particularly in light of the fact that she substantially complied with each of her probationary conditions, is harsh and unfair. That said, Ms. Lohan is prepared to serve her jail time and to comply with the Court's orders."
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Mo, plain and simple, you picked the wrong target.
It's her DAMN LAWYER…what do you expect her to say? And where are your facts that it's too harsh?! Where are your comparative examples. Next you'll tell me that Wesley Snipes' lawyer thought his sentence was too harsh or that Charles Manson's lawyer felt the sentence was too harsh.
How does that "prove" your point. C'mon Walt, do better than that. She is a PAID ADVOCATE for her client, not an impartial non-participant.
Oh well Walt, all is lost for this blog. Sorry I can't please you. But in the end (or the beginning) that was never the point. Anytime you wish to offer up facts to support your point, I'm here.
You have NO examples of Lohan being disproportionately mistreated and anything you show STILL pales in direct comparison to Bobby Brown, DMX and Harold Rollins.
Either way, you lose. If it's too "harsh" for Lohan, that only proves my point that her sentence still fails in comparison to Black celebrities…and I've offered PROOF.
This just in…Michael Vick's attorney felt the sentence of his client was too harsh. Ergo, it must be true.
This just in…Plaxico Burress' attorney felt the sentence of his client was too harsh.
Brafman believes his client was treated differently than the average person would have been for the same crime.
"If Plaxico Burress were not a high-profile individual, it would never have been a case," he said. "If he were John Doe, he would've walked out of that club. Nobody at the hospital reported the gunshot wound."
If Burress had been convicted of all charges, he could have faced 3 1/2 to 15 years in prison. City leaders were quick to call for a harsh punishment, which Brafman says hurt his client.
"It was not helpful to have the mayor go on record early on this case, demanding a maximum prison sentence," he said. "That would not have happened if he were not a high-profile individual. "
His lawyer said it…ergo it must be true. We'll just disregard that he has a vested interest in getting the person off. We'll just toss that aside.
Gullible is not a color that suits you Walt.
Walt, I rarely let others influence my opinions on anything…if an average American fails to follow the conditions set forth by the court, they will get their original sentence reinstated. This young woman had the chance to retain her freedom and set her life straight. THAT WAS A WAKEUP CALL!!! She failed to recognize it, therefore to jail she goes. The court bent over backwards giving her chances on several occasions. Would you or I get those chances, i strongly doubt it. There are many in Hollywood who take for granted that because they are successful they don't have to obey the law of the land and get away with so much wrong…the star-struck cop who fails to issue a speeding ticket, arrest the abuser,or overlook the murderer until its shoved in their face. I hope this finally wakes Lindsay up and she goes on to recapture her career and lead a more upstanding life. I think this is the best thing for her and others who follow in her footsteps.
Walt, I have dispassionately reveiwed the discourse between you and Mo. I, like southernVal, am not easily swayed to be influenced against my better judgement, but I must question the apologetic stance that you take in defense of Lohan.
You imply the judge grandstanded and that Lohan's career demands deserve special consideration, but it is exactly that kind of privileged consideration that has this young woman attempting to grasp reality today. If the judge said, "Be here on this day for this amount of time" go there on that day for that amount of time…period!
Salvage of one's career, especially one in which the damage is self-inflicted, is no justification to skirt the law. If anything, the studios and producers should be far more amenable to inconveniencing themselves than to have their star property continue to be a scoff-law. Afterall, it is in their best interest for her to conform to that which is asked and required of her.
Walt, I dare say that M.A.D.D. (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) would not trivialize any incident of driving under the influence or lost of control of a vehicle no matter how "minor" the outcome. Lives have been lost under the exact same circumstances, and those responsible were innocent right up until the point of impact.
Apologies and forgiveness are not post-mortem options and the gravity of one's actions need to be recognized no matter how well one's name or face is. There is no benefit to being "taken out" by a celebrity over any other impaired driver.
I do not say this lightly. I had an "awakening" ten years ago when I woke up at 4:00 a.m. at a stop light with my foot on the brake and the car in drive. I had been asleep there long enough for my car to be surrounded by law enforcement.
I had fancied myself in condition to get home. The reality of the possibilities resonated with me and I never drank again (and, trust me, I was no pilgrim). I did not need a program, I only needed to consider what was at stake. That's responsible objectivity.
The judge was doing her job, plain and simple. She just may have saved that young lady's life.
Try not to be confused by Morris’ confusion.
He is under the deluded impression that Lohan has had continued run-ins with the law.
No, she hasn’t.
As you can see above, it was two incidents, in 2007, for which she received three years probation which was extended one year.
Why? Same issue she faces now: failure to make all her meetings.
Why? She’s not a 9-to-5er, she’s a movie actress.
Why the onerous requirements? Why the arrest warrant? Why jail and rehab?
Why all this for some missed meetings while otherwise living legal, clean and sober?
You know my theory.
This is the latest in a series of posts by Morris which make basic mistakes which he refuses to correct.
Court requirements supersede ANYONE's 9-5. It doesn't matter she's a "movie actress." Thank you for proving my point. No mistake to correct. No special privileges for an "actress." By the way, I'm not 9-5 either. It doesn't mean the law doesn't apply to me or the provisions of probation.
It's her probation. Either fulfill the requirements or go to jail. Probation is given in LIEU of jail. Not my problem.
Multiple arrests are multiple arrests…nothing to correct. Thanks for stopping by…closet, formerly banned troll. IP addresses don't lie.
1. Lohan was involved in a traffic accident on May 26, 2007 when she lost control of her car and ran the vehicle up a curb. Beverly Hills police also found what they preliminarily identified as a "usable" amount of cocaine in her car. After receiving treatment for minor injuries, Lohan was arrested on a misdemeanor charge of driving under the influence of alcohol.
2. On July 24, less than two weeks after leaving Promises, Lohan refused a field sobriety test in Santa Monica and was taken to a police station where her blood alcohol level was found to be above the legal limit. While conducting a search, the police found a small amount of cocaine in her pocket. Lohan was booked on a felony charge of possession of cocaine and misdemeanor charges of driving under the influence and driving with a suspended license.
3. The probation was extended by an additional year in October 2009, following several instances in which Lohan failed to attend the court-ordered substance abuse treatment classes. (That qualifies as a run-in with the law…not following provisions of probation. It is a NEW sentence, due to NEW behavior.)
4. On May 20, 2010, Lohan was scheduled to appear in Los Angeles County Superior Court in Beverly Hills, California, for her DUI progress report hearing. She did not appear, and attorney Shawn Chapman Holley told Judge Marsha Revel that Lohan said her passport was stolen while she attended the Cannes Film Festival in France. The judge issued a bench warrant for Lohan's arrest. (qualifies as run-in with the law…when your probation is extended or bench warrant is issued for your arrest…that qualifies as run-in with the law…i.e. behavior on the part of the fool involved leading to his/her arrest.)
It's about time that someone drew a line in the sand for this woman.
Val, Roger:
You are entitled to your opinions that Lohan deserves jail for living a clean, sober and crime-free life since those two bad months in 2007 (when she was still a teenager), for missing some meetings. That's fine, you are free to say "jail and forced inpatient rehab" for that.
Fine.
Now please let me read your honest assessment of Morris:
(1) Implying (wrongly, lazily) that Lohan is guilty of a string of transgressions;
(2) Comparing (ludicrously, dementedly) Lohan to Bobby Brown and DMX. Rollins is a separate and very sad case.
Please gentlemen, in all your honesty, guide me through your thoughts on those items.
How is it ludicrous to compare to Bobby Brown who got 8 days in jail for a DUI (WITHOUT COCAINE) for his FIRST DUI?
Say this out loud…"BOBBY BROWN GOT 8 DAYS MORE TIME FOR ONE DUI THAN LOHAN GOT FOR TWO"…you're right, that is ludicrous and "unfair."
How is that ludicrous? Don't let the facts get in the way of your argument Walt. Do remember that Brown's DUI was related to alcohol, not alcohol consumption AND cocaine possession (likely consumption too). Don't let the facts get in the way.
You're making yourself look bad Walt. This is inarguable. 8 (days in jail) is more than ZERO (days in jail). 1 DUI (Brown) is less than 2 DUIs (Lohan).
It's not that hard.
It almost sounds like you're more sympathetic to Lohan for any reasons relating to color…because if you knew ANYTHING about Brown's and DMX's backstory, they are more "tear-jerking" than Lohan's. Do your research on them as you did on Aaron McGruder.
No offense to anybody else on this thread, including Mo, but it just occurred to me what a colossal waste of time this is, and I blame myself first and foremost.
Mo wanted to clown an easy target, and look what I turned it into.
My bad, and more important, my energy wasted.
I just feel so ridiculous.
New polls suggest that the president's approval ratings are now below 50 percent, and that a majority of likely voters consider him a socialist.
And I sit here saying what I said to Tavis in October 2008: Obama's instincts are to be a centrist and we will have to push him further to the left than he wants to go.
Well, he's settled in the center, we haven't pushed, and the real unemployment rate is above 15% and going nowhere fast.
The next meltdown is waiting to happen.
Roads and bridges need repair, all sorts of new infrastructure needs to be developed within a generation.
What's going on here?
The Republicans want this country to tank, so they can blame the Democrats, win back the White House and their congressional majorities, and continue slamming the common man on their insatiable path to owning everything.
We are in serious trouble.
If Obama fails, most of use will likely never see another chance come along to reorient the country economically and stop playing the game of being aligned racially, which has always been the powerful's secret weapon: keep us distracted with each other so we won't have the energy and cohesiveness to go after them.
We need to not only defend the left flank from attack, we must make it even stronger. The Obama presidency must establish a new center, far to the left of the current center, and let future elections be fought over how much control over the economy the government asserts, and not over whether it should in the first place.
We have seen the results of that experiment.
Mo I am done with the above and I apologize for even wasting the time.
I'm back from lala land and I'm focused on the messed up situation this country is in.
P.S. Regarding Bobby Brown, not to prolong the conversation, but he had many other charges and he fled the hearing on the DUI, and all of it happened in another jurisdiction. If we were going to continue this discussion, which I am not, we would want to see first offense DUI in Cali. But my preference is that we move on.
No offense Mo but I am moving on.
I'd love your opinions on Obama and so forth.